Your friend should have thought of the ramifications of his actions in advance. The woman has the right to choose but that doesn't excuse the man from any responsibility. He should feel bad. He acted irresponsibly and the woman had to to make a very difficult decision. He should have been more understanding and supportive of her choice. Hopefully he learned a lesson even though she had to handle the situation completely on her own.Men dealing with an abortion?
Ok, in my oppinion both the male and female have equal rights because the man carrys the seed so i think they have equal say in it, so in my oppinion iots both equally emotional
I believe it would be normal for him to feel that way, I mean it was his baby. Although if its to the point of suicide, he needs to get some help. I personally feel the father should have say, but yes as much as it sucks it is ultimately the women's decision, and the man cant do anything. I don't believe in abortion at all so I don't support her decision, and for his sake I wish it didn't happen. The best that you can do is try get him some help and be a supportive friend.
He went to one of the abortion clinics and found out that she did not loose the baby, but that she had an abortion.
I'm sorry this really does not make sense , clinics do not release info or names
And even if he did she her name she could have went in for other things.
abortions are not the only thing they do they also handle women that have miscarriages and they have to go in and make sure nothing was left behind from the pregnancy or they can get sick and need a hysterectomy....
maybe you should talk to her direct and tell her your just trying to help
good luck
How would he go to the abortion clinic and get her information? That's a major HIPAA violation which is illegal and no clinic will relinquish personal information including medical records to anyone other than the patient themselves; unless she signed a release that he could get her info. Sounds fishy to me. Are you sure he didn't just assume she got an abortion?
Either way your friend needs counseling. If I were in his position I'd probably be upset as well. I would have liked the chance to talk about it before hand, maybe offered to take the baby and release her from any obligation. And if that wasn't what she wanted to do, then I'd support her decision, it's her body. But I'm a woman with 2 kids, so my view is slightly skewed.
First, I think the hospital was not supposed to release the abortion information to the man - confidentiality of patient's info. She had breached his trust. Can he trust her again - depends. I think it's life you deal with different people with different's beliefs. He should know whether he really wants to continue his committment to her. If not, he should move on. Take care of youself first sir. He can see an psychologist for help.
I have extensively researched this topic and have come to the following conclusions:
Conception is in fact the creation of a human being. This statement is irrefutable without severely distorting both logic and self-evident truth. Since conception has created a human being and since no human being has ever wanted to be unconsciously killed by another person, logic follows that the active destruction of such a human being (despite its relatively recent creation through conception) is wrong. Thus the conclusion is that abortion itself is wrong.
In the case of your friend and his girlfriend, the fact is that they both agreed to have sex. Therefore they were equally responsible in the conception of the human being. Two parties who are equally involved in the creation of something (no matter what, be it a piece of art or, in this case, a human being) must also be equally involved in the destruction of that which is created. This is a coherent, logical thought the truth of which is corroborated by moral evidence which concludes that any individual who gave of his or her time and effort to create something would be displeased if another party to the work disingenuously made the decision to destroy it--especially if the first party had explicitly indicated that he or she wished to see the work preserved. Thus the conclusion must be made that it was wrong of the girlfriend to have solely made the decision to end the life of the conception.
As far as what ';we men would do'; in this situation... I don't know. I'm sure every man's response would be different. My personal feelings dictate that I would feel that my girlfriend had deceived me and murdered my child.
To conclude, I would state that what the girlfriend has done in this situation is manifestly wrong. I would not, however, isolate your friend from responsibility. The decision to have sex should have been considered carefully. It is an activity designed for a conspicuously unmistakeable purpose (procreation), and the consequences of that purpose should be the first reflection of any man or woman contemplating sex. The vows and long-term commitment which are the staples of marriage make it the only perfectly safe and rewarding province for sex. If the two had been married, most if not all of the trouble would have been avoided, including your friend's difficulties with his psyche.
The best way to help your friend would be to encourage him to seek council at a local church (I personally recommend Baptist or Bible churches). While church cannot remedy wrongs or bring the world to perfection, the words of the Bible do provide truth and hope. Love is the only weapon against hate.
B.C.CHASE
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It is the woman's choice. Yes, it may be the man's seed but is he the one going through nine months of discomfort?
No. It is the woman. Also, it is the woman's body. Since when is forcing somebody to do something they don't want to do with their body right?
Oh, and an abortion clinic or hospital would NEVER release that kind of information. It is against the law. Have you ever heard of Patient-doctor confidentiality?
Also, there are literally hundreds of places where you can get an abortion in just one city. Hospitals, free clinics, abortion clinics, etc. Did this man search every single place in the city?
hmmmm..... (LIAR! LIAR!)
What a horrible thing to do, I mean for this man to agree to marry her and then for her to go and kill their child, that鈥檚 just wrong. They seem to have some trust issue though since he investigated into it.
I don鈥檛 agree with abortion but if it鈥檚 done I personnel think it should be a couple decision since that baby is both of theirs, the mother may be the one to carry it for 9months but it takes two people to make a baby. If a girl doesn鈥檛 want the baby she can get an abortion, but if a guy doesn鈥檛 want a baby he can鈥檛 force the girl to get an abortion yet he will have to pay child support.
there is NO way, unless the girl was with him and gave permission to release her records, that he could of found out that she had an abortion. abortions are confidential in ALL cases unless not performed by doctors and this is a line of crap because there is NO WAY a doctors office could tell him that unless she released that information to him, which is doubtful if she lied about it in the first place, or if he knew someone in the office and found out illegally...either way...its a hard, difficult situation to be in, and if it has gotten that bad, this guy should not wait another day before getting psych. help immediatley...but i went through this, and my mom couldnt even find out if i had an abortion althought i was underage...so this is really unlikely if it happened as you described.
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